비디오 설명난 맨밑에 가면  비디오에서 나온 말을 적어넣은 것을 볼 수 있는 Transcript 이란 글을 눌루면 비디오 오른 쪽에 영어 자막을 다 복사할 수 있다.
We want to announce something big that we've been working on for months now. It's a documentary series called Art of the Surge.

It's all behind the scenes footage shot by an embedded team that has never before seen footage

of what it's actually like to run for president if you're Donald Trump. They were there at the Butler Township assassination attempt, for example, and got footage that no one has ever seen before. And it's amazing. Become a member at TuckerCarlson.com to see this series.
Art of the Surge.

Meantime, here's our latest episode with Calley and Casey Means.

Who Are Casey and Calley Means? Okay, so I actually think this book is going to I never say this, but I mean it. I think this book is going to have a big effect on the course of the country. And the reason I think that, is because you two are the perfect people to write it. And so I, I never do this, but I just want to start with your bio.

So your siblings kissing Carly, your happened to have grown up in the same neighborhood as me in Washington. Like blocks from me. So I know the world that you're from. You're writing about food, nutrition, the regulatory bodies that are poisoning the country. You are a lobbyist, okay?

 

And you are a Stanford educated physician. I just want to go through quickly each one. And starting with you. You're a doctor? Yes.

Tell us the progression of your thinking on this and what it did to your life.
 

Yeah, absolutely.
So trained at Stanford Medical School, then became trained

as a head and neck. Surgeon, undergrad, Stanford. Undergrad, Stanford Medical School at Stanford, then went on to train and had a neck surgery nine years into my post-graduate training.

How did you do in medical school and college did?

Well. I was president of my Stanford class, you know, graduating top of my class with honors in medical school and went on to a very competitive surgical subspecialty.

 

So I'm just saying, because normally I'd dismiss credentials out of hand, but these are real credentials. And they they matter I think to your credibility.

 

Okay. And I did what every good little medical student you know, wants to do, which is climb the ranks of that academic ladder. But, you know, you can. You killed it.

Did well, you know, and I went and I got to the top of that mountain, right. Nine years into my postgraduate training.

 

And I looked around me and I realized that, you know, patients in America are getting destroyed.

Children, adults, the elderly. You know, you're you're so distracted in your little surgical subspecialty, focusing on the your nose and throat where I was. And you get distracted, you look around at what's happening.

 

Americans. And our health is getting worse. Every single year. Patients in America are getting much sicker. Every year, more depressed.

We're getting infertile. And life expectancy is going down in a country that's spending almost two weeks more than any other country in the world.

So before we get into the details of what you did tell us, I mean, why you tell us what you did? So you spend your whole life working toward this goal. You reach the top and then you decide not to do it.

Yeah. You know, I'm in the operating room in my fifth year of my surgical residency, and I'm looking down at a patient in front of me who's on our third revision sinus surgery. And, you know, I know how to diagnose her, I know it, I write the prescriptions, I know how to do the surgery. But what I kind of realized in that moment was like, I have no idea why this patient is actually sick. She has so many other health issues pre-diabetes, arthritis. She's got some brain fog, she's got obesity, and she's got this sinus issue. And in my training, you know, I was never, ever, ever taught to look at the whole patient, to look at how all these things are connected. And I was only taught how to, you know, do the surgery and then bill for it.

And I realized that there's a huge, problem in how we're practicing medicine right now, which is what we're ignoring the root causes of why Americans are sick and we're profiting off of patients getting sick and then doing things to them.
 

That's the way the business model of health care works. You know, the most of the way that health care, which is the largest and fastest growing industry in the United States, makes money as you have more patients in the system having more things done to them for longer periods of time.

 

And when I kind of put some of these pieces together and realize that my training had totally,

essentially incapacitated me from really understanding why patients are sick and, and how to actually help them thrive.

I actually had to walk away from the surgical world, because I realized that I was gonna be making money off of essentially, not spending time helping patients understand their health and actually just profiting off their illness.

So my nine years into medical training at Stanford, you gave it up voluntarily. I on my birthday, on 30th birthday, I walked into the office of my of the chair of the department, and I put down the scalpel and I walked away.
 

And I devoted my life to why are Americans getting sicker every year? Why are 50% of American

children dealing with a chronic health issue? This was less than 1% 50 years ago. Why is our health getting destroyed the more that we spend? So that's why did they say, when you walk into your colleagues in Stanford and say, I'm giving it up at 30.

 

You know, it wasn't really a conversation. You know, I knew that I couldn't cut into one more person until I understood why Americans are getting sicker every single year. I think that the unfortunate thing is that doctors don't really understand, because every level of our education is systematically

focused on blinding us from thinking about root causes. We are we have over 100 medical and

surgical subspecialties right now, and you know, how you make money in the American health care system is you take a patient with ten different issues and you send them to ten different specialists, put them on ten different meds, maybe eventually have ten different surgeries.
 

You never actually are taught how to put the pieces together. Look at the whole body as a system,

which of course it is. And part of this is because you know, who are the people underwriting our medical education? It's the pharmaceutical companies. You know, we are we are taught how to be

very algorithmic and robotic and how we look at patients. And so ultimately, I left the surgical world and I went down the rabbit hole of asking, why? Why are we getting sicker? It's just such a radical move. Yeah. To do something like that.

 

Yeah. I mean. Your whole life you're working toward a goal, and then you give it up.

Yeah. After nine years.

Yeah. You know, this is the thing that was I understood and that I am working and we are

spending our lives to evangelize this book. Good energy.

 

Is that the reasons why Americans are getting sick, sicker every year are very simple. Americans want to be healthy. Americans do not want to die early. They do not want to see their kids. With all these chronic health issues like autism and food allergies and obesity and pre-diabetes, and 40% of teens with mental health issues, no one wants this.

But the system is rigged against the American patient to create diseases and then profit off of them.
 

This is happening across almost every level of our major industries, from processed food to tech

to pharma. And so really, what what Americans need to understand is that these trends can stop

immediately. We need to understand why we're sick, which is our primarily our toxic food system, and the ways that systematically, several industries are profiting off of our addiction and illness. And if we can understand that and create very simple, top down and bottom up strategies to address it, Americans will become rapidly healthier. And so as a physician, you know, I took an oath to do no harm. And I took an oath to help patients thrive.

And so the way that we can do that is by helping to understand the levers of, of, of corruption that are essentially keeping us sick, I guess. Reason I'm pressing you, and you're the sort of person I mean, this is a company clearance. I want to talk about yourself, which is great.
 

But I think it's relevant because it speaks to the intensity of your commitment and to your sincerity. So you're giving up the prize. You're giving up the money because you really believe this?

Yes. And I think it's I just want to establish that at the outset.
Thank you.

We say anything more. So you're, her brother?

You're very close. I happen to know that. And. And you're obviously proud of your sister president, a class at Stanford, the kind of thing like.
 

Oh, my sister's at Stanford. She's Stanford medical school. She decides not to practice surgery.

The most impressive of all specialties. What's your reaction to that? I called her and said she was a

complete idiot, you know? I mean, we were raised in Washington, D.C., right next to you.

Kind of condition to climb up the ladder. Of course. I went to Stanford. I went to Harvard Business School. You know, that was what life is

about. Just kind of collecting those credentials. Casey, you know, research at the NIH, as we talked about top of her Stanford med school class, to me, that was that was it. And truly a new head on this. She had. No, I mean, this is this is her life. This was her identity. This is everything to her. And she bravely stepped away with no plan, just from a moral obligation. And I thought she was a complete idiot. And what I know now and what I've been radicalized on, is she has convinced me that this is the most important issue in the country. It's an issue of corruption, that starts at Stanford med school being 50% funded by pharma and not, training doc